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In debate, Trump rants, cites conspiracy theories as Harris pushes back, touts her vision for future

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A split screen on ABC TV shows former President Donald Trump (L) and Vice President Kamala Harris face off at the ABC Presidential Debate at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in Philadelphia on Tuesday. Image via ABC TV/UPI

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Sept. 10 (UPI) — Vice President Kamala Harris contrasted her vision for America with that of her opponent, former President Donald Trump, while the Republican nominee remained focused on attacks and unfounded claims in Philadelphia on Tuesday.

The first presidential debate between Harris and Trump opened with a handshake as Harris approached the former president and introduced herself at his podium. Decorum, however, was quickly set aside by the former president as he launched into tirades about immigrants, abortions after birth and people eating dogs.

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The highly anticipated debate at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia with the Democratic nominee for president, Harris, and the Republican nominee challenging her for White House, Trump, was moderated by two ABC network faces, “World News Tonight” anchor David Muir and ABC News Live “Prime” anchor Linsey Davis.

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Muir and Davis pushed back on multiple false claims made by Trump throughout the debate.

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Trump claimed, as he did in the first debate and multiple times on the campaign trail, that Democrats support abortion up to and after birth. He specifically said Harris’ running mate, Tim Walz, says abortion in the ninth month of pregnancy is “absolutely fine. Execution after birth is OK.”

Davis immediately fact-checked Trump, clarifying that there is not a state in the nation where this is legal.

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The first question from the moderators was about the economy, but Trump moved the subject to immigration. He did the same with subsequent questions that were unrelated to immigration. When Muir finally asked a question about immigration, the former president instead first addressed attendance at his rallies.

After a short off-ramp on rallies, Trump alleged that people who have migrated across the southern border to Springfield, Ohio, are eating residents’ pets. Muir interjected, saying there are no credible reports of pets being harmed.

Trump has expressed his intention to take another harsh stance on illegal immigration, vowing to undertake mass deportations. Muir asked Trump if he would have authorities going door to door to deport migrants. Trump did not answer this question.

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Muir later pinned Trump down on false claims that he won the 2020 election. Muir quoted Trump at recent rallies saying he “lost by a whisker,” implying that he was acknowledging the results were legitimate. Trump said he was being sarcastic in those instances. Muir noted that Trump lost all of his challenges to the election results.

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On that, the vice president answered emphatically.

“I have traveled the world as vice president of the United States and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump,” Harris said. “I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you, and they say you are a disgrace. And when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny over and over again court cases you have lost, because you did in fact lose that election, it leads one to believe perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament or the ability to not be confused about fact. That’s deeply troubling and the American people deserve better.”

Harris stayed focused on laying out her policy vision while presenting herself as a unifying president. She called for the country to “turn the page” on Trump’s “old, tired rhetoric” and “address the needs of the people.”

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The vice president placed the blame on Trump for killing a border security bill that the Biden administration supported that would have increased the number of border patrol officers and resources at the southern border.

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On the war in the Middle East between Israel and Hamas, Harris voiced her support for a two-state solution. She said a cease-fire and the release of hostages would be her priority. She contrasted her position on international affairs with Trump, who she said looks fondly upon dictators.

Harris also contrasted her economic policy with her opponent’s. Like President Joe Biden‘s economic policies, Harris is focused on bolstering the middle class. She plans to pursue a $50,000 tax deduction for startup small businesses, a $6,000 child tax credit for the first year of a child’s life and $25,000 downpayment assistance for first-time homebuyers.

Trump, meanwhile, has discussed extending the corporate tax cuts that he enacted in 2017 and new 10-20% tariffs on imported goods, plus 60% tariffs on imports from China. According to Muir, economists estimate that the costs of these tariffs will be passed on to consumers, increasing the annual costs for the average family by $4,000.

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Trump disagreed that there would be higher prices.

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“We’re going to take in hundreds of billions of dollars,” Trump said.

The former president emphasized that the Biden administration has not rolled back the tariffs he imposed on China in in 2018.

On abortion, Harris said if Congress passed a bill to restore the protections of Roe vs. Wade she would sign it into law. She seized on Trump’s role in abortion rights being stripped following the U.S. Supreme Court‘s Dobbs decision in 2022.

Trump was asked if he would veto a national abortion ban if it reached his desk as president. He did not answer, instead shifting his response to the Biden administration’s student debt relief plans. Davis mentioned that Trump’s running mate JD Vance had said he would veto a national ban. Trump said he has not discussed his plans for abortion with his running mate.

Trump confirmed that he now supports a six-week abortion ban. He had previously said banning abortion after six weeks of pregnancy is too restrictive. He explained that he changed his position because “Democrats are radical.” Trump then launched into the debunked claims of late-term and post-birth abortions.

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One of the final questions of the evening was about Trump’s recent comments at the National Association of Black Journalists convention in Chicago last month, in which he questioned Harris’ race.

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“Why do you believe it’s appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent,” Muir asked.

“Whatever she wants to be is okay with me,” Trump said.

Muir asked again, to which Trump said “I don’t know.”

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Harris recalled Trump’s history of divisiveness on the topic of race, dating back to his alleged discrimination against Black families at his rental properties and the full-page ad he took out in The New York Times calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five. The Central Park Five were four children and one 18-year-old that were Black and Hispanic, that were convicted of the rape and attempted murder of a female jogger in New York. They served sentences of five to 13 years in prison before being exonerated.

On Tuesday, Trump doubled down on his stance on the Central Park Five, saying that they “admitted — they said, they pled guilty. Then they pled ‘we’re not guilty.’” He then abruptly changed topics to discuss the economy.

The debate concluded with starkly different closing statements from the candidates. Harris revisited her economic plan and her call for unity.

“I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us and we can chart a new way forward,” Harris said. “And a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations, the dreams, the hopes, the ambition of the American people, which is why I intend to create an opportunity economy, investing in small businesses, in new families, in what we can do around protecting seniors, what we can do that is about giving hard-working folks a break in bringing down the cost of living.”

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Trump’s closing statement was another attack on Harris and a grim view of where he believes America stands today.

“We’re a failing nation. We’re a nation that’s in serious decline,” Trump said. “We’re being laughed at all over the world. All over the world, they laugh, I know the leaders very well. They’re coming to see me. They call me. We’re laughed at all over the world. They don’t understand what happened to us as a nation. We’re not a leader. We don’t have any idea what’s going on.”

As the debate ended, Taylor Swift gave her highly anticipated endorsement, throwing her support behind Harris. In a post on Instagram, Swift called Harris a “steady-handed, gifted leader.” She signed off the post with “Childless Cat Lady,” a nod to controversial comments made by Trump’s running mate.

The 90-minutes debate was broadcast on multiple television networks and live-stream platforms — such as ABC News LiveDisney+Hulu, Paramount and CBS platforms. Additionally, SiriusXM users could listen on Channel 370.

Among the debate rules and stipulations, there was no live audience in attendance.

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Two minutes were given to answer questions by the two ABC moderators, two minutes for rebuttals and one extra minute for any follow-up or clarifications.

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An Oct. 1 date is set for the two vice presidential candidates, Minnesota’s Democratic Gov. Tim Walz and Ohio’s Republican Sen. JD Vance, to face off in a New York City debate moderated by “CBS Evening News” anchor Norah O’Donnell and “Face the Nation” moderator and the network’s chief foreign affairs correspondent Margaret Brennan.

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Does Trump really want his VP to have the final debate word this election?

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Published 3:11 PM EDT, Sat September 21, 2024

Former President Donald Trump on stage with Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. J.D. Vance, during a campaign rally on July 20, 2024 in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

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Does Donald Trump really want his running mate, JD Vance, to have the final debating word this fall? Or does Trump want that opportunity for himself?

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That’s one of the questions now on the table after Vice President Kamala Harris challenged Trump on Saturday to a second debate hosted by CNN next month.

The only remaining agreed-to debate of this presidential election season is the October 1 face-off between the vice presidential nominees, Vance and Tim Walz.

CBS is hosting the VP debate and allowing other networks to simulcast the matchup, just as CNN did in June and ABC did earlier this month. The contrasts between Walz, 60, and Vance, 40, are sure to be fascinating.

But historically the VP debate has never been the last in an election cycle, with the running mates usually sandwiched in between debates between the candidates at the top of the ticket.

Of course, this year’s election cycle has been unusual for many reasons, including the earliest general election debate between President Joe Biden and Trump, and the late ascension of Harris as the nominee.

But it sure would seem anticlimactic to have Walz and Vance helm the last debate of the cycle.

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Multiple television networks have jockeyed to hold additional presidential debates this fall. The Harris campaign signaled that it would be interested, but only after the VP debate.

CNN has offered to host Harris and Trump on October 23 in Atlanta, the site of the Biden-Trump matchup in June. (Trump has said he won that debate, and Biden withdrew from the race three weeks later, so a return to the Atlanta studio might be enticing for him.)

On Saturday afternoon, Harris publicly agreed to participate on October 23, and encouraged Trump to join her.

Harris campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon said in a statement that “Trump should have no problem agreeing” since “it is the same format and setup as the CNN debate he attended and said he won in June, when he praised CNN’s moderators, rules, and ratings.”

NBC, the biggest broadcast network that has yet to hold a debate this year, has also been keen to host Harris and Trump. Harris aides may have calculated that Trump would be more likely to agree to CNN’s event.

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But the Trump campaign quickly responded Saturday by reiterating the Republican’s declaration that there would not be another debate, pointing to his social media post last week that read, “THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE!”

At a rally Saturday afternoon, Trump claimed October 23 is “just too late” because “voting has already started.”

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But as political scientist Larry Sabato, the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, observed on X, people who vote weeks early are mainly “voters who were probably unmovable.” A debate closer to Election Day “could sway the small % of undecideds plus motivate (or de-motivate) many on both sides.”

The final presidential debate of the 2020 election cycle was held on October 22.

Still, Trump cares deeply about television ratings, so one has to wonder if he will really pass up a chance to reach 60 million to 80 million viewers one more time before Election Day.

The first two presidential debates this year were indisputably valuable to the tens of millions of voters who tuned in.


Americans would benefit from another debate, CNN said in a statement on Saturday, because the public would “hear more from these candidates as they make their final decision.”

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Harris challenges Trump to second US presidential debate

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Donald Trump says ‘too late’ to hold another debate as early voting has started ahead of November 5 election.

Republican presidential nominee former President Donald Trump, left, and Democratic presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris during an ABC News presidential debate, Sept. 10, 2024, in Philadelphia. [AP Photo/Alex Brandon]
Donald Trump, left, and Kamala Harris went head-to-head in an ABC News presidential debate on September 10 [Alex Brandon/AP Photo]

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Kamala Harris has challenged Donald Trump to a second debate before the United States presidential election, saying she “will gladly accept” to go head-to-head again against the former president.

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In a statement on Saturday, Harris’s campaign spokesperson Jen O’Malley said the US vice president had accepted CNN’s invitation to a debate on October 23.

“We look forward to Vice President Harris again having the opportunity in the CNN debate to show her command of the issues and why it’s time to turn the page on Donald Trump and charge a new way forward for America,” O’Malley said.

More than 67 million people tuned in to the first Harris-Trump showdown on September 10, which saw the two candidates trade barbs on immigration, foreign policy, and other issues.

Most observers crowned Harris the winner of that debate, as she repeatedly appeared to rattle Trump over the course of the evening.

Trump echoed that at a campaign rally in North Carolina on Saturday, saying it was “too late” to hold another showdown with Harris.

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“The problem with another debate is that it’s just too late, voting has already started,” he said, as reported by US news outlets.

While election day is November 5, early voting began this week in some US states.

In 2020, the final presidential debate ahead of the election was on October 22. Four years earlier, when Trump went up against Democrat Hillary Clinton, the third and final presidential debate was on October 19.

CNN has said the proposed October 23 debate would mirror the format of one held in June between Trump and Democrat Joe Biden.

Biden’s poor performance in that debate spurred questions about his age and ability to serve another term, and weeks later, he dropped out of the 2024 race.

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“Both Vice President Harris and former President Trump received an invitation to participate in a CNN debate this fall as we believe the American people would benefit from a second debate between the two candidates for President of the United States,” CNN said in a statement.

“We look forward to receiving a response from both campaigns so the American public can hear more from these candidates as they make their final decision.”

Close race

Most polls show Trump and Harris locked in a close fight in the run-up to the upcoming vote, particularly in battleground states that will be key to winning the White House.

According to a New York Times polling tracker, Harris on Saturday held a slim lead of 49 percent support nationally compared with Trump’s 47 percent support.

It is not clear whether debates actually have an effect on presidential campaigns, with most experts saying the impact is minimal.

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Harris agrees to CNN debate, Trump campaign nixes idea

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September 21, 202411:53 PM GMT+6Updated 2 hours ago

Democratic presidential nominee and U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris attends a campaign event in Madison
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WASHINGTON, Sept 21 (Reuters) – U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris has accepted an invitation from CNN to participate in another debate against Donald Trump on Oct. 23 and urges her Republican rival to face her less than two weeks ahead of the Nov. 5 presidential election, the Democratic candidate’s campaign said on Saturday.

“Vice President Harris is ready for another opportunity to share a stage with Donald Trump, and she has accepted CNN’s invitation to a debate on October 23. Donald Trump should have no problem agreeing to this debate,” Jen O’Malley Dillon, the chair of the Harris campaign, said in a statement.

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Asked about Harris’ acceptance of the CNN invitation, a Trump spokesperson referred to the Republican former president’s prior statements that there would be no more debates.

Harris and Trump debated each other for the first time on Sept. 10, in a contest that polls showed was won by the Democratic nominee.

Trump last week said he would not participate in another debate against Harris before the election.

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“THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE!” the former president wrote on his social media site Truth Social last Thursday.

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Trump debated President Joe Biden in June before his matchup against Harris.

Biden’s shaky performance in that debate rattled Democrats and prompted strategists to ask whether their party should take the unprecedented step of replacing the 81-year old president as their candidate. Biden withdrew from the race for the White House in July.Wanted Roe v Wade to be overturned.00:0301:22

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